As an example, the average strength of 1/4” Amsteel is 7400 pounds, while Amsteel Blue is 8600 pounds. Here is the weight that a typical 7/64 Amsteel Blue whoopie sling is rated to support, using the minimum safety factor recommended by Samson: SWL = BS / SF = 1600 / 5 = 320 lbs Note: I had originally posted a calculation based on plain Amsteel, which gave rise to some of the responses below. Samson’s Amsteel is made from Dyneema SK60. Class II ropes (including Amsteel) are manufactured from high-modulus fiber, such as Dyneema Composite Fabrics. Can anyone enlighten me on the pros and cons of the two lines.

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WLs are based on a percentage of the breaking strength (aka tensile strength) of new and unused rope. Samson’s Amsteel is made from Dyneema SK60. USPS international shipments are delayed beyond normal shipping times. I've been thinking of trying dyneema, technora or amsteel blue for ridge my ridge line set up. 08-21-2012, 13:39 #3. The breaking strength of Amsteel Blue 7/64 is 1600 pounds. Amsteel is a brand name for Samson Ropes cord made of high-modulus polyethylene (HMPE)--also known as Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene (UHMWPE). But I'm afraid they … Don’t get confused.

The diameter of Amsteel 7/64 is 0.11 inches, so for this rope, one fid is equal to 2.31 inches. Working load (WL) is the load that a rope is subjected to during normal use.

They are not the same thing but are often confused. © 2017 DutchWare | SITE DESIGNED BY SNOWBERRY MEDIA, Terms & Conditions  |  Shipping & Refunds  |  Privacy Policy. I see a few threads about Amsteel vs. dyneema (which seems kinda tantamount to asking Hamburger vs. beef), but I was considering Spectra as an alternative to Amsteel. Are Amsteel and Spectra more or less the same product from different companies or should I put Spectra out of my head altogether as a viable option? Is Amsteel the Same Thing as Amsteel Blue? http://www.samsonrope.com/Documents/…Manual_WEB.pdf, http://www.samsonropecatalogs.com/home/100239.pdf, http://www.samsonrope.com/Pages/SpliceInstructions.aspx, http://www.samsonrope.com/Documents/…Splice_WEB.pdf, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjR4…ature=youtu.be, http://www.samsonrope.com/Documents/…l-Blue_WEB.pdf, http://www.yalecordage.com/pdf/yale_backsplice.pdf, http://www.machovec.com/rope/splicing/splicing.htm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRuiTrR4KQA, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtJGTgpv4dc, https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/…ty+constrictor, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw6P3pHt8KI, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17_uXaEfZ9w, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBiGD–SOFg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch-bqE7OQZw, http://www.ropecord.com/new/terminology.php#D. If you want your package to arrive quickly, we recommend upgrading to FedEx or DHL services.

The 7/64 commonly used for whoopie slings, has only eight strands, but diameters beyond that have twelve. Hike the, By PMSteve in forum Suspension Systems, Ridgelines, & Bug Nets, By 2Trees in forum Suspension Systems, Ridgelines, & Bug Nets, By jennalyn216 in forum Suspension Systems, Ridgelines, & Bug Nets, By motorapido in forum Do-It-Yourself (DIY), Suspension Systems, Ridgelines, & Bug Nets, Feedback, Suggestions, and Site Questions, [SOLD/WITHDRAWN] Items no longer available, Hammock Gear - Manufacturers and Services, Arrowhead Equipment (Home of Kick Ass Quilts), 2QZQ Hammock Specialties (Hennessy Bugnet Zipper Mods), Share your rope work from the various group buys lash/zing - it, amsteel, dyneema, If this is your first visit, be sure to Samson specifies that a fid is equal to the diameter of the rope x 21, and that an effective bury for Class 2 rope should be three and a half fids. As an example, the average strength of 1/4” Amsteel is 7400 pounds, while Amsteel Blue is 8600 pounds.

Knots degrade the strength of the rope up to fifty percent.

In addition, the product is flexible, lightweight, durable, resists flex-fatigue, & abrasion-resistant. Amsteel Blue is made from Dyneema …

So the recommended bury would be about 8 inches. Counter-intuitively, the smaller the diameter of the rope, the shorter the bury needs to be.

Amsteel is defined by Samson as a “high-modulus polyethylene” rope. The Samson documentation invariably lists Amsteel Blue as a (class 2)12-strand product, but that documentation often does not include the 7/64 size because it is too small for the marine and industrial use that Samson caters to. I retract my earlier statement! A good splice should not reduce rope strength by more than ten percent. Samson’ recommends that maximum workload should be 1/5th, or 20% of the quoted breaking strength (safety factor = 5), and recommends a higher safety factor for uses that involve “life or limb.” The Cordage Institute’s recommends safety factors of 5 to 12 for non-critical uses, and 15 for life lines. I am unclear as to … There's got to be SOME reason everybody around here goes to Amsteel vs… Amsteel Blue is made from Dyneema SK75. Bury = fid x 3.5 = 2.31 x 3.5 = 8.01 inches Note that the length of the bury is dependent on the diameter of the rope. The high-modulus part means that Amsteel has “low elasticity elongation” or in other words, it doesn’t stretch much. International orders: USPS international shipments are delayed beyond normal shipping times. I do use amsteel blue for my hammock whoopie slings and they work great. Please check your entries and try again. Safe working loads do not apply to shock loading. Loop Suspension[/color], If this is your first visit, be sure to For example, a whoopie made with 1.75 mm Zing-it would only need five inches of bury (if following Samson specs), while one made with 1/8 inch Amsteel would need nine inches.

Something went wrong. The problem with synthetic fibers is creep. By snidetripod in forum Do-It-Yourself (DIY), By britcoms in forum Suspension Systems, Ridgelines, & Bug Nets, Feedback, Suggestions, and Site Questions, Suspension Systems, Ridgelines, & Bug Nets, [SOLD/WITHDRAWN] Items no longer available, Hammock Gear - Manufacturers and Services, Arrowhead Equipment (Home of Kick Ass Quilts), 2QZQ Hammock Specialties (Hennessy Bugnet Zipper Mods), [Color=green]Amsteel Whoopies to Amsteel Cont. As a dentist, I deal with creep in various materials and know how to factor it in when … It depends. Zing-It vrs Dyneema vrs Amsteel I am familar with Amsteel ( I use it for a lot of suspension stuff, tie outs etc ) but have never used Zing-It or Dyneema lines and familiar with them. Dyneema is stronger than steel and a fraction of the weight. The Yale Vectrus, Samson Amsteel Blue, Spectron 12 (grey Amsteel) and Maffioli DSK Ultra Dyneema all appear to be in the same ballpark in terms of strength and weight. check out the.

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What is being sold by cottage vendors today is usually Amsteel Blue, even if they don’t always call it that. They are not the same thing but are often confused. It has a similar strength to wire rope with 1/7th of the weight. The eye of the whoopie sling is usually made with a locked Brummell, which does not require stitching.

They are calculated by dividing the rope’s breaking strength (BS) by a safety factor (SF). However, this also means that this type of rope doesn’t like to be shock-loaded, so ease into the hammock! Amsteel is a product name for cordage made with dyneema fibers, so Amsteel is dyneema. WV. Current lead time is 1 week or less for most orders. The eye made in a variation of the “utility constrictor rope” (UCR), does require lock stitches (I like UCRs better than whoopies). View Profile View Forum Posts View … Class I ropes are manufactured from polyolefin, nylon and or polyester fiber. check out the. I am still 18 but with 49 years of experience ! Amsteel is a samthane coated, non-rotational, 12-strand single braid that is known for its low stretch and high strength.

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